PTR, Testing And You and Me

[kilraq]

*Edited* Now in the PRT. Request away
Howdy folks!

Kilraq's the name and testing is going to be my game.

Wasn't fortunate enough to get into the WOTLK beta, but I do have a LOT of time, the PRT Realm is up and my characters are being transfered right now.

I know the PTR is about a week behind the beta, but I want set forth this offer to everyone who doesn't have say... the time I do.

So I will leave it simply like this.

Leave your name, your subject you wanted tested, how you want it tested and what exactly you need to know in detail. I will do my best to facilitate all requests to the best of my ability. I've been itching to test out the new talents and builds, so I will gladly test it all for you as well so I can get more immersed in sides of the hunters builds I dont often dabble in.

Example of form would be...

Name:
Question:
Detailed Info Needed:
Screenshots needed (yes/no)

Add anything you want to that or if you need something I didn't list go ahead and add too it.

Yes, I will gladly test builds for pets and hunters as well.


Adding some basics stats into this post for number checks and such.

First the basic stats and info.

Gear used for testing

Vengeful Gladitator's Chain Helm
--Gems
12 AGL +3% crit dmg
4 hit + 4 AGL
--Enchants
34 AP + 16 Hit rating
Shattered Sun Pendent of Might
Pauldrons of Primal Fury
--Gems
4 crit strike + 8ap
8 AGL
--Enchant
30 AP, 10 Crit strike
Blood Knight War Cloak
--Enchant
12 AGL
Scaled Drakeskin Chestguard
--Gems
8 AGL
--Enchants
+6 stats
Vindicator's Chain Bracers
--gems
5 AGL + 6 stam
Rift Stalker Gauntlets
--Enchant
+15 AGL
Vindicator's Chain Girdle
Leggings of the Pursuit
--Gems
8 AGL x2
--Enchants
30 stam, 10 AGL
Fiend Slayer Boots
--Gems
8 AP + 2 MP5
8 AGL
--Enchants
12 stam
Angelista's Revenge
Garona's Signet Ring
Hourglass of the Unraveler
Tsunami Talisman
Netherbane
--Enchant
+20 AGL
Breeching Comet
--Gems
10 AGL
--Enchant
+20 AGL
Crossbow of Relentless Striking
--Enchanting
+28 Crit Strike


Base stats with gear

str 67
agl 714
stam 595
int 233
spirit 89
Armor 7026

dmg - 656-817
speed 2.40
power 1730
hit rating 145
crit chance 24.70

Melee (507-660)
Speed. 2.56/2.56
Power 1789
Hit Rating 145
Crit chance 23.43
Expertise 0/0

[Ketari]

Hi Kilraq;

Name: Ketari
Question: How long does our mana last with various shot rotations and specs
Detailed Info Needed:

In Hawk aspect, how long does it take you to go OOM (or mana percentage after 180 seconds of testing, if you prefer/you're not going OOM) with the following:

BM spec, steady spam
BM spec, serpent sting and steady
MM spec, steady spam
MM spec, serpent sting, chimera shot (to sustain serpent) and steady
SV spec, steady spam
SV spec, serpent sting, explosive shot, steady

*Please take all mana conservation talents in the tree and use your pet with BM to trigger invigoration.
*Please note mp5, haste percentage, intelligence and maximum mana in each spec.
*It would be useful if you were to use mana oil and a mageblood potion, please note if you do so (and include them in your mp5 figure)

Screenshots needed: no

Thanks in advance.

[kilraq]

*Edited for an easy location for numbers*

Test were done without Hawk or Hunters mark.

Did a retest now that I got no lag in Theramore on the Surv numbers. Posting em here.

Build http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

Time till OOM 165.13s Or 2 3/4 mins.
DPS 1899 (was about 2000, but the last few ticks of serpent made recount track it off)
Total dmg done. 313590

Explosive Shot = 124251 dmg. 59.7% crit, 40.3 normal
Auto Shot = 98007. 54.0 crit, 46.0 norm
Steady Shot = 78938 58.5% crit, 41.5 norm
Serpent = 12394 dmg

Pet dmg done 38228
DPS 239.5
Melee = 29797
Claw = 8431

Only claw was activated.

lvl 1 Test dummie in Theramore used.

Just noticed I got the no mana regen bug somewhere during this test. Take the time till OOM with a grain of salt.

Redid my Steady only OOM test.

Time till OOM. 190.83s 3m20s
Total dmg done. 300639

Breakdown is...
Steady = 186199. 52.8% crit, 47.2% norm
Auto = 114440 52.8% crit, 47.2% norm.

Pet dmg was 39756
78.# melee, 21.7% norm

Melee = 31136
Claw = 8620


BM spec

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...00000000000000

BM test

Time till OOM. 104.44s. Or 1min20secs
Total dmg 163817

Steady shot = 98039 50.8% crit, 49.2% norm
Auto Shot = 65778 56.9% crit, 43.1% norm

Pet (Claw only)

DPS 61841 (592.6 dps)
Melee = 41100 (65.5%) 67.0% crit. 33.0 norm
Claw = 20741 (33.5%) 69.8% crit 30.2 norm

And cause I know there were people wondering about this...

Invigoration = 1980 mana returned. (Pokes talent and begs blizz to fix)

Mark Build

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...12253105030351

Yes I am aware this is not a perfect build. It is just set for testing the OOM factor while giving the biggest dps increase to the skills used.

Steady Spam Test

Time till OOM 106s
DMG 171651 (1619.2)

Steady shot = 110188(64.2) 51.8% crit, 48.2% hit
Auto = 57917 (33.7%) 69.1% norm, 31% crit
Wild Quiver Auto Shot (? only 4 count) 3546 (2.1%) 75% crit, 25 norm

Pet. 37612 (362.8dps)
Melee 19115 (50.8%) 79% Hit, 21 Crit
Claw 18497 (49.2%) 79.7% hit, 20.3% norm

Serpent, Chimera (to refresh serpent), Steady

Time till OOM... 68.98s
DMG 127163 (1843.5)

Steady = 55546 (43.7) 51.7 hit, 48.3 crit
Auto = 44549 (35%) 51.9 hit, 48.1 crit
Chimera Shot = 11322 (8.9%) 60% crit, 40 norm
Chimer Shot (Serpent Refresh) = 8650 (6.8) 60% crit, 40% norm
Serpent = 5771 (4.5%)
Wild Quiver Auto Shot = 1325(1%) 50% crit, 50% norm

[Shandara]

I feel your pain. Been in the PTR copy queue the whole day. I shouldn't have slept this night and signed up right as it opened I guess!

Give me PTR access already!

Btw, there should target dummies in the major cities, so Dr. Boom can be retired.

[kilraq]

Originally Posted by Shandara

...
Btw, there should target dummies in the major cities, so Dr. Boom can be retired.

Thanks for the tip!

BUT... slight problem. PRT is LAG city right now. Will have to do the test tonight.

As for initial observations...

1. Pets/Mounts when used are learned, however the items themselves are not "consumed". Not yet if erasing them from your inventory makes you loose the mount/pet yet, but will let you all know what I find out there.

2. Achievements. Blizz did a "decent" job at retroactively awarding us points for past achievements, but this part of the system still needs work. Check out all your inventory items for Heroics in particular. Right now even having an item from a Heroic boss doesn't seem to award the achievements. Report them in for items from the boss table's people.

Will report more as I have time to spend playing.

[Ketari]

Originally Posted by kilraq

Btw, would you mind if I used Dr. Boom for standardization?

Or the target dummies in Org. I'm not at this point really concerned with damage, just mana consumption.

Shandara - Yea, first thing I did was head over to the copy page (six hours). By the time it'd downloaded (slept about six hours and it was done) I checked and it was up to 2 days...

[Shandara]

Finally got in!

Been testing on the target dummies in Stormwind (SI:7)

Proud weapon to use is Fine Light Crosswbow!

29-29 damage range, 2,70 speed.

Been comparing it to my spreadsheet. AP and stats calculated are dead on (for my gear at least). Removed all proc'ing items/gear to get some base damage tested. 0 armour test dummy in Stormwind. Pet out for Focused Fire buff.

* Auto-shot: non-crit damage is dead on, crit damage is slightly higher than expected (It's the meta-gem Relentless Es Diamond). Removing my helmet puts it dead on again
* Steady Shot: damage dead on
* Serpent Sting: dead on damage per tick
* Arcane Shot: damage dead on

* Multi-Shot: Damage very slightly lower than expected (off by about 5-6 damage). Not sure why. Possibly to do with ammo/base weapon damage calculations. Only reason I can think of is whether it normalizes weapon/ammo damage? I'm currently assuming it does, but changing it to not to puts the numbers almost exactly where they should be.

Haven't spec'ed into Aimed Shot or SV/MM yet, so will get that later.

[kilraq]

Not sure how your able to test anything. I am getting HELLACIOUS lag right now.

*sighs*

Like I said earlier, will do a full test tonight. This lag is BAD.

[Ketari]

Originally Posted by Shandara

* Multi-Shot: Damage very slightly lower than expected (off by about 5-6 damage). Not sure why. Possibly to do with ammo/base weapon damage calculations. Only reason I can think of is whether it normalizes weapon/ammo damage?

It's normalised to 2.8. (And so's aimed shot)

[Shandara]

Originally Posted by Ketari

It's normalised to 2.8. (And so's aimed shot)

That's what I'm doing at the moment in the sheet, it's just that when I don't normalize it the numbers line up.

On pets:

Bite - damage is spot on
Melee - damage is off and I haven't been able to find out. The calculated damage range doesn't match the in-game one (I de-talented completely to get some baseline figures).

50-70 damage, 2.0 speed
14 pet AP is 1 dps
Pet has 726 AP so each attack gets 726/14*2,0 = 103,7 damage extra
Wolf, Mood = 125%, Family = 110%
Combined is 137,50% modifier
(50+103,7)*1,375 = 211,3
(70+103,7)*1,375 = 238,8

In-game says: 202-234

Also, I noted my Wolf now has 150 agility at level 70 (instead of 128 as I had taken from Cheeky's version).